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The thoughts, random or otherwise, of Mark and Heidi Thomas. Sometimes possibly Caleb and Elodie, depending on how much sense they are making.

Sunday, January 01, 2006

WARNING! The following is a big moan!

The other day I had a bit of a rant at Mark about how people of our parents' generation roll their eyes every time you complain about any pregnancy niggle or how tired you are or anything about how tough it is to raise children. They say things like 'it's as if she's the first person in the world to have a baby' or 'I had to do it with six of you' / 'and I did it without a husband there' etc. But any time you ask for advice, encouragement or support they say things like 'it doesn't last forever' or 'you need to take it one day at a time' or my pet hate 'hang in there' so it can feel a bit like you are the first person in the world to have a baby, it's not as if there's someone there to tell you how to do it, and everyone who has done it is resting on their laurels because the slog is finally over for them. I think it might be a little bit to do with a fear that giving advice can seem pushy or overbearing or presumptious. I've found since having Caleb that the best thing to do with advice is lap every last bit up, then dump what you don't need, and hold on to the gems that come your way. I've borrowed SO many books and watched The House of Tiny Tearaways etc. and we're already doing it all! So here I say PLEASE GIVE ME ADVICE! I don't mind if you suggest the blindingly obvious, I don't care if you've never even touched a baby in your life, but doesn't it take a whole village to raise a child or something?
It's clear to most people who read our blog that we haven't slept a whole lot since having Elodie, obviously, but the worst thing is that Caleb stopped sleeping through the night in July, and since he's been in his 'big bed' that means that no-one sleeps. This week they got the flu, and I'm afraid I have run out of sympathy, I'm exhausted already and I have no physical or emotional reserves to draw on for the constant back-rubbing etc. Tell me, what do you do when you just feel like you can't do it anymore? How do you stop a Thomas from screaming his lungs out every time he disagrees with you? How do you get a 2 year old to sleep through the night again? How do you make the time to give your second child any attention? What will I do when Mark goes back to work?
We celebrated New Year by repeatedly settling our coughing, screaming, children back to sleep between 7pm and 1am before crashing ourselves, I'm not sure what time Caleb came and joined us. That sums up 2005 for us. I want 2006 to be better!

*Disclaimer* I ought to stress that our parents aren't meanies when we unburden ourselves to them, but they have been guilty of the vague kind of encouragements that don't really give you anything to hold on to!

11 Comments:

  • At 12:31 pm , Blogger Sarah said...

    The thing is, no-one *really* knows, do they? Everyone does what they have to do for their own children, and if they find something that works, they're doing well - which is why encouragements seem so vague.

    We were the sort of horrible parents that left our kids to cry when we had got to the end of our tether - it was us or them, and we weren't going to be the ones screaming all night, so we just put them at the other end of the house and left them to it - they soon learnt. We would set a clock and leave them for that long - having checked they were ok, no dirty nappies/legs stuck through cot/any other disaster - and not go back until the time was up. Controlled crying, I suppose, but with far longer time gaps than any of the books recommend! And then finally once we were sure they could really sleep through the night we just decided to leave them for a whole night.

    But it wouldn't work for everyone, and we didn't do it the same way or at the same age with our three, but we did have to do it with all of them at some point. Only possible on nights when Steve was there to hold me back, too, as I would never have had the willpower to do it on my own.

    I remember Lorraine often having Est & Ben in bed with her when they were little - I guess it worked for her as Dad was often away so that was the best and most effective solution at the time, but I could never stand to do it that way - I know lots of parents who go in for the co-sleeping thing and swear by it, not for us though.

    Tantrums and screaming Thomas fashion, I'm not sure whether our kids are the same as yours or not, but in this house anything like that just gets shut in its room and ignored.

    to be honest, what you describe sounds far worse than anything we've ever had to deal with, our lot have been pretty good at night for most of the time- we have the opposite problem now of them getting too old to put to bed at 7pm!

    Sending you lots of love and hugs anyway, in a vague manner, and there is light at the end of the tunnel - it will pass, and God will give you the grace to get through, even when Mark's back at work.

    xxxxxx

    p.s. sorry this got so long!

     
  • At 4:44 pm , Blogger Sarah said...

    By the way, I forgot to say Happy New Year!

    Also, it occurred to me that it could just be that Caleb is just 2, and he'll grow out of it! Again not a terribly helpful thing to say I know, sorry.

    Wishing you some very good nights' sleep in 2006 :)

     
  • At 5:35 pm , Blogger The inimitable Mrs T. said...

    There might be something in that you know... sometimes I long for the days when we could just leave him in his cot to scream!

     
  • At 7:03 pm , Blogger wend said...

    have you thought about a stair gate for his room and doing controlled crying even in the night, that way he can't get out and he's safe but he'll get the message that its night time. we always did contreolled crying on ours and even though Hannah is still an unusual sleeper (ie has a 2 hour chat the odd night still without needing anyone still doesnt sleep on an hours car journey or in the buggy didn't even as a baby) sleeps most nights straight through now. But it is exhausting and it does feel like its never going to end.
    I have a theory on two year old tantrums, they have this big 2nd birthday as they're big enough to enjoy it which is probably the most prolonged period of enjoyment of constant attention totally focused on them, then it stops, so they complain in the only way they know how, you just get them back on an even keel and then you ahve Christmas so the same situation arises etc etc etc until they're old enough to be able to say mummy I want you to play with me and they understand that.
    If it's any encourgement our usually placid no problems sammy ahs been stomping and stamping and banging doors the last 2 days and saying he doesn't care (which he clearly does!), only to apologise 2 minutes later and hes 4 1/2 so It's not only you. I think Christmas is such a weird time for them as its full of so much activity seeing people, excitement, food, nicies all the time then it all stops and they just crash emotionally at that age.
    It does get better believe me it does, and Caleb will sleep, try the CC as sarah suggested. It does sound mean but I'm on my 3rd child and it works and so far they;re all emotionally fine as a result and its far crueler to deprive them off sleep. All I would say is give it 2 weeks, Andy and I did it in shifts if Marks working he could do Friday and Saturday night and basically the person who was doing the night slept upstairs and the other person was as far removed from the noise as possible. Then the person not doing the night took over from 6am so that the person who ahd done the night got an hour or so extra. It took us 10 nights with Sam and he now sleeps through an earthquake. Hannah took about 10 nights and now is doing so much better.
    hope this ramble makes sense
    email me if you need to

     
  • At 10:22 pm , Blogger The inimitable Mrs T. said...

    Thanks Wend. We're all for leaving him we just haven't been able to do it logistically. Hadn't considered moving the stairgate to his room- that might make controlled crying a possibility again. Thanks!

     
  • At 8:40 am , Blogger Sarah said...

    Yes, try that, Heidi! When Anna first went into a big bed we went through a phase of having to shut her in her room to get her to stay there (had forgotten all about it!).

    A number of nights she fell asleep on the floor, under the bed, once right behind the door, but it had the same effect as being left in a cot. We did keep a monitor in there and check occasionally so that we could tell if anything really awful was happening.

    I won't mention the fact that we also had to put nappies and sleepsuits on back to front so that she couldn't take everything off, her other trick at that age (about 18mo)!

    We did have to put a lot of things in her room away though, as she really banged about and messed around.

    But stairgate on the door sounds like a good idea to me - might be noisy for a few evenings as I guess Caleb won't like it, but I'm sure it will only take a few.

     
  • At 6:03 pm , Blogger Nikki Mayfield said...

    Stairgate on the door - fab idea. I knew some people that tied door handles together every night to prevent escapees! (In fact I think we also tried that one or two times!)

    We had to remove toys and even movable furniture as Elias used to bang on the door with whatever he could find.

    Also, we seperated the kids when we were trying to get sleep sorted out - poor Elias slept downstairs in the travel cot for ages whilst he learnt to sleep, and we all weathered it out for a few weeks. (Alas I know of nobody who accomplished it overnight - anyone who says they did is clearly lying!)

    One other thing I have learnt (through getting it badly wrong initially!)was that both Robin and I have to agree very clearly what we are trying to do, and how we are going to go about it - otherwise one of us would get fed up, or cave in and all our hard work was wasted. We have even gone as far as looking at the calender and 'booking' the time if there was something in particular we needed to do, like potty training - as there may be times when it is easier to start something like that.

    And can I just add that I really do genuinely sympathise with the total lack of sleep. Having Joy was an awful shock to my system, made worse by really difficult circumstances - I got so little sleep for 2 years I have few memories of her as a baby, because I simply had no sleep. She's now 7, and I am happy to report she now sleeps, and the crying has certainly tailed off!

     
  • At 8:45 pm , Blogger Sarah said...

    Nikki, I am so relieved to hear that someone else's child slept downstairs in a travel cot for a while! I thought we were the only ones who'd simply moved the cot to the furthest point in the house!

    Just wondered when Mark is going back to school - Wednesday? We'll pray that it gets significantly better this week, in any case.

     
  • At 6:51 pm , Blogger Alana said...

    Absolutely nothing helpful to add - sorry - however think you may have just put me off having kids for life - LOL!

    Might be a bit young yet (that's how clueless I am!) but what about a sticker chart (a la Dr Tanya - who I love!!).

    Building up the stickers for good night time behaviour (one for going to bed without a fuss, one for staying in his room all night, etc) - then small rewards for a certain number of stickers and a bigger reward for a milestone (consistent good bedtime behaviour for a week?) - I dunno - just thinking outloud really!

     
  • At 2:07 pm , Blogger Simone said...

    I had to laugh reading this post. Not because it is funny but because my post sounds almost exactly the same! What is going on!
    Absolutely no sensible advise, my own kids are out of control, especially the screaming because of disagreement. Lydia is three, Elijah is three, The both seem to happily past terrible twos and start at three?! Sitting her on the step does help.
    Tough-love daddy put Lydia to bed last night and she satyed there, for the whole night, and overslept!
    Also, take them running, playing outside during the day reallu helps for ours, they are just so tired byt he end of the day...oh, and very healthy food makes them tired too!

     
  • At 5:50 pm , Blogger Sarah said...

    So, I've been thinking of you/praying for you - how's it been this week?

     

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